tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post3489665047076457691..comments2024-01-06T08:53:25.620-05:00Comments on against the modern world: bonaparte's retreathorus kemwerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16984916074697401382noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-80216812877613213622021-10-01T14:00:17.032-04:002021-10-01T14:00:17.032-04:00Horus
I don't know how to contact you privatel...Horus<br />I don't know how to contact you privately but I am publishing a series of videos of Bonparte's Retreat on www.FolkWorks.org and in our newsletter and found your blog on this. It has most everything I had collected plus wonderful background text and would like permission to use it as is and give you credit. Please contact me at steves18.folkworks@gmail.com<br />ThanksStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263783438832115926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-50222689769907253022012-08-07T19:06:53.273-04:002012-08-07T19:06:53.273-04:00The Copland version was also quoted in the soundtr...The Copland version was also quoted in the soundtrack of an animated cartoon film called "Fievel Goes West", which I watched when I was a kid. When I heard the Stepp version of Bonaparte's Retreat, something clicked, and I thought "I know that tune from somewhere..." Perhaps that chain of influence was partially responsible for my interest in old-time music!Theonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-46192483977806614792011-07-11T07:50:41.104-04:002011-07-11T07:50:41.104-04:00I know I'm finding this post three years late,...I know I'm finding this post three years late, but a good post (like a good fiddle tune) should have a long shelf life - and this is a good post.<br /><br />Copland worked, I'm pretty sure, from Ruth Crawford Seeger's transcriptions of the Library of Congress recordings that appeared in various printed books such as "Our Singing Country." <br /><br />It's possible he never even listened to the field recording himself. He certainly didn't have a lot of knowledge of the tradition out of which the piece came.<br /><br />It would be a WONDERFUL thing (hmm!) for someone to do an orchestral version of this tune that really DID honor the genre of 'programmatic or descriptive fiddle tune' and expand that into orchestral form. Now there's an interesting challenge...<br /><br />MarkMark Simoshttp://www.devachan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-849687758970320572011-01-23T23:56:02.536-05:002011-01-23T23:56:02.536-05:00I am a ballet teacher using the Copland version fo...I am a ballet teacher using the Copland version for a recital piece I've choreographed for my students. I'd been curious for a long time about this piece. Every time I research it, the remark that it is based off a folk tune is always there, but that's where the analysis stops. Since it's hands down the most famous of Copland's works where the general public is concerned, I'd been suprised not to have more info available. So, great explanation; I finally appreciate its origin and can pass it on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-10292023525502912212010-02-16T01:19:49.786-05:002010-02-16T01:19:49.786-05:00I've been learning a lot of fiddle tunes but I...I've been learning a lot of fiddle tunes but I've been holding off on "Bonaparte's" because of the weirdly different versions that have been out there (particularly those that sound just like "Hoedown"). This is the first explanation I've ever gotten of this, and it's very, very well presented. Thanks, man!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-54864358097826860352008-05-09T08:54:00.000-04:002008-05-09T08:54:00.000-04:00Love the connection to the old Irish! Many tradit...Love the connection to the old Irish! Many traditional tunes were notated starting with Bunting at the Irish Harp Festival in 1792. Much was lost, for example all the lyrics. But this was the Irish Literary Renaissance, and the newly-educated Irish and Scots were searhing for and finding their own suppressed history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-48711363359239356292008-05-03T17:32:00.000-04:002008-05-03T17:32:00.000-04:00I agree- I came across William Stepp's "Bonaparte'...I agree- I came across William Stepp's "Bonaparte's Retreat" on the recent 20 disc History of Country Western music." When I heard it I realized that Copeland simply stole the arrangement in whole (i.e. plagiarized) for his Rodeo rather than simply interpreting an old Appalachian folk tune, which is what it was passed off as.<BR/><BR/>Nice to see this post as it sort of confirms things for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6405040046789439883.post-49880656528538050512008-03-26T10:47:00.000-04:002008-03-26T10:47:00.000-04:00This is a killer post.This is a killer post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com